The Geek Beat: These Too Shall Cast
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Was it easier being a cinema or hilarious bug beforehand the Internet? Was there some kind of delight in finding effectively some unidentified kid named Christopher — Reefs? Reeve? It's Reeve? Ok! — was evict as the initiate in Richard Donner's
? Happiness in the sense of you couldn't categorically talk close by it, reasonable wonder, and you had no illusions of being vicinage of a vocal collective who could sway the minds of studio executives? Wasn't it easier to essentially not know these things until the trailer hit?
Peradventure. Maybe not. Musty comic shops perhaps had a occasional fans who hung around after closing justified to complain about how it should have been Steve McQueen, hopeless in the service of the kind of community who cared concerning who donned the cape, melancholy they had to mingle with on all sides of a comical betray after hours. But then I look at my Chirrup feed and it's full of fans who are bitterly exhausted by the
First Avenger: Captain America
casting rumors — which have only been going strong for a few weeks — and I wonder if it's better not to know far the interrupt lists and the screen tests. Inferno, on a par my geeky mom blew off the first off round of John Krasinski-led rumors with a "I hate that rubbish gets reported. Who cares? Just tell me who is cast."
She's right, of course, and it's silly for me to write a column pointing that out. But I am, and you know why? Because I spent a unceasingly Googling the digitally dusty archives to find free zealot reactions when
The Absurd Four
or
Daredevil
was stamp. I wanted rumors and frenzies. I knew they had happened on a John Krasinski-supine in the past. For years, I've been entertained by tales of how mad people were when Michael Keaton (a
comedian
) was cast in Tim Burton's
Batman
. I barely have dim memories of the furore that surrounded
The Lord of the Rings
and the Dougray Scott / Hugh Jackman switcharoo that was
X-Men
. (Remember, I had dropped out of that world, and pretended so strong addictive not to notice what Ain't It Cool News discussed that I succeeded, and exhausted a decade!)
So, what did I lay one’s hands on? Nothing. Google remains silent, bringing up commentless casting account from the likes of USA Today. Our man movie sites tend to be rusty on the search and archive front. I finally found an AICN contention announcing that Ioan Gruffudd, Chris Evans (current Cap contender), and Michael Chiklis
had been cast in Fantastic Four
and the comments range from negative to apathy. Even the negativity isn't at the level I expected — and this from commenters who define hyperbole. Perhaps the most amusingly retro remark of the knot came from someone declaring Phenomenon had "lost it." Back in 2004, we had no faith in their filmmaking or casting process, as opposed to the soothing balm of today's mantra: "Trust Marvel. They know what they're doing."

What I had been hoping to turn up was something to align with Drew McWeeny's
recent screed against fandom
, and turn up examples of when fans were right or wrong in their anger or interest to casting rumour and rumors. Truthfully, I was hoping to summon up proof that fans weren't lousy casting directors because I don't think "Recall when you all hated Elijah Wood as Frodo Baggins / Heath Ledger as the Joker / Hugh Jackman as Wolverine" works as an fray. It does as a
Arrogance and Prejudice
lesson, of course, but my cynicism says fandom is due to be right in their reactions eventually. There's always a fall from grace, and one impatient note in a well planned franchise. Marvel's rise from the Dark Ages perhaps proves how far they've give up, but how lickety-split they could slump.
In fact, we've enjoyed so tons comic bombs more than the pattern decade that I thought I would be masterly to find some of that justified concern. I wanted some bolster that fans hated Ioan Gruffudd as Reed Richards or Colin Farrell as Bullseye, and ended up being able to say I told you so. Delightful that in unison AICN curriculum vitae on
Fantastic Four
, I guess there's some documented proof that way. We all have anecdotal stories of how we all complained fro Jennifer Garner's Elektra (and I do remember many cries of "She's not even Greek!"), but I wanted bodily proof. I'm sure it existed in forums and talkbacks long deactivated, but not even virus-embedded remnants remain. No greater than the legal
Daredevil
wallpaper pops up on Google, not the monogram fan reactions to Affleck in clothing. And you brainwork what you posted on the Internet lasted forever.

Again, it feels incredibly lame to say that we fans are but shadows and dust in the long road of filmmaking, and that the final upshot is all that will linger. Perhaps in this epoch and seniority of social networking, more of those kneejerk reactions I was craving commitment be preserved to hang exceeding all our heads. But to all intents not. I meditate on by the time
Initial Avenger: Captain America
hits theaters, there pleasure be a infrequent titters ended "And you thought it should be [Enter Specify Here!]", but it desire be no more than a few winks and nudges. Hopefully, that will be because the movie is good, and not so halt we don't care about it anymore. (Even
The Sense
stands as recent measure of that.)
But that's not to say there's no applicable in getting worked up adjacent to it all. To me, that's the joy of the Internet and conventions, and the reason all our sites persist. We care. We're invested. And that's okay. If anything, it's a weighty that Marvel, DC, Warner Bros, and Dominant should be proud of what they've done, because they have created a goods that people are personally invested in. Everyone has their own Steve Rogers or Hal Jordan in mind, and while they may end up bitterly disappointed or pleasantly surprised, the nub is that they tribulation. While I certainly feel that fandom has become a lot more deleterious and worked up in some respects (I disregarding nevertheless did an epic column down it which, depending on your focus of view, was a pessimistic or positive outlook on it all — and I had reactions claiming both), I'm not sure the Great Submissively Casting is specially damning. In fact, you could perpetuate it emphatically as evidence we hushed care about the representation of American symbols, and we don't have a yen for precisely anyone (no matter how likable they were in this role or that) representing us abroad. When I commented in non-geeky company that I'd rather see an Australian or an Englishman take the part over Chace Crawford, the reactions can lone be described as mere horror. Cover must be American, crappy casting be damned, and there's something feather of stimulating close to that loyalty.
And who knows? Perhaps the unexceptional rumor mongering course of action will go down in filmmaking retailing, as there's more sites and social networking than there were to save erstwhile geek productions. It's possible that Captain America make succeed where Daredevil and Doctor Doom didn't. All the severe wrangling and debating resolve be documented in Wikipedia and IMDB links for years to come. So, watch what you post. Just in case.
